Comments on: The StuckinSydney.com Links Experiment - 10 Days In http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/ Backpacking around the world on my income from the internet. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:32:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Court Reporters http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-36192 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:28:30 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-36192 Good stuff. Finally you getting top 10 ranking in Google. Congrats. Thanks for share links experiment. Good stuff. Finally you getting top 10 ranking in Google. Congrats. Thanks for share links experiment.

]]> by: tiffany http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-36002 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:27:46 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-36002 I also think that if you want a site to be good long term then focusing more on content than gaining links is still the way to go and I cannot see that changing because there has to be more value in great content than someone’s ability to gain links unnaturally. Big players (e.g. national level media) will pick up on great content and usually link to it, and a link from the Washington Post is worth a 1000 links from any three way link campaign.<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jewel-tiffany.com/Tiffany/tiffany-ring.html" rel="nofollow"> </a> I also think that if you want a site to be good long term then focusing more on content than gaining links is still the way to go and I cannot see that changing because there has to be more value in great content than someone’s ability to gain links unnaturally.

Big players (e.g. national level media) will pick up on great content and usually link to it, and a link from the Washington Post is worth a 1000 links from any three way link campaign.

]]> by: Working Nomad http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35818 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:55:23 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35818 I would still be wary of getting too many links too quickly. That was my point, nothing to do with variety of links. It's obvious a variety of links will be good. I've only had a couple of sites that have been penalised by google and both times it was aggressive link building. I also think that if you want a site to be good long term then focusing more on content than gaining links is still the way to go and I cannot see that changing because there has to be more value in great content than someone's ability to gain links unnaturally. Big players (e.g. national level media) will pick up on great content and usually link to it, and a link from the Washington Post is worth a 1000 links from any three way link campaign. I would still be wary of getting too many links too quickly. That was my point, nothing to do with variety of links. It’s obvious a variety of links will be good.

I’ve only had a couple of sites that have been penalised by google and both times it was aggressive link building.

I also think that if you want a site to be good long term then focusing more on content than gaining links is still the way to go and I cannot see that changing because there has to be more value in great content than someone’s ability to gain links unnaturally.

Big players (e.g. national level media) will pick up on great content and usually link to it, and a link from the Washington Post is worth a 1000 links from any three way link campaign.

]]> by: Mike http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35817 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:14:23 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35817 Well I think your strategy is fine. Unless you are getting hundreds of irrelevant links, I don't think you will have trouble with the big G. Well I think your strategy is fine. Unless you are getting hundreds of irrelevant links, I don’t think you will have trouble with the big G.

]]> by: Residual Income Builder http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35787 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:20:21 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35787 @Matt I think what Kirsty is demonstrating is just how powerful the right link is - ie a contextural link from an authority site in the same niche @Matt I think what Kirsty is demonstrating is just how powerful the right link is - ie a contextural link from an authority site in the same niche

]]> by: Residual Income Builder http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35786 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:19:17 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35786 @Kirsty yeah careful I am going to build a list and spam everyone *evil MMO laugh* I saw a little micro-niche which might make a good plan B! @Kirsty yeah careful I am going to build a list and spam everyone *evil MMO laugh* I saw a little micro-niche which might make a good plan B!

]]> by: Kirsty http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35774 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:45:56 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35774 Matt, Matt, Matt... we've been over this a million times. I've always had a 'ticket onto Google' with no link building required up until recently so I've never focused much on link building campaigns, article submissions or any of that stuff. I know links are important, they're just not something I've bothered with much until now and this experiment is less about whether links will help my rankings and more about how many I will need and how long it will take to see results. What I'm surprised about is how few links and little time it's actually taken, at least for these keywords. Matt, Matt, Matt… we’ve been over this a million times. I’ve always had a ‘ticket onto Google’ with no link building required up until recently so I’ve never focused much on link building campaigns, article submissions or any of that stuff. I know links are important, they’re just not something I’ve bothered with much until now and this experiment is less about whether links will help my rankings and more about how many I will need and how long it will take to see results. What I’m surprised about is how few links and little time it’s actually taken, at least for these keywords.

]]> by: Nomadic Matt http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35770 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:06:01 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35770 Don't take this the wrong way but I'm pretty shocked that after eight years of doing this, you only realize that links are the ticket onto google. I would have figured you knew that already. Your site will bounce since google sees that it is all of a sudden getting new links and wants to make sure its not spam. after a bit, it will iron out and stop bouncing around the SERPs Don’t take this the wrong way but I’m pretty shocked that after eight years of doing this, you only realize that links are the ticket onto google. I would have figured you knew that already.

Your site will bounce since google sees that it is all of a sudden getting new links and wants to make sure its not spam. after a bit, it will iron out and stop bouncing around the SERPs

]]> by: Kirsty http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35765 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:45:53 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35765 @corbin It's really hard to keep the sites up to date with content but it's not something I worry about too much. I am currently working on a massive update for http://www.workingholidayinfo.com for all of the visa info as that's the sort of thing that changes. But general advice stuff like how to use the London Underground or hostel etiquette doesn't really change. My goal is to add new content on all of my sites from time to time but it's not something I've been able to do much of. For most of the sites I do, updates aren't demanding in the same was as they are with blogs. @ana Ya, I know! It's terrible. I have been planning on writing those articles and more for the Sydney site for ages and I know it's something that is holding it back. I don't plan on leaving it like that, I just need to find the time to finish those pages off. @workingnomad Ya I had been concerned about that but I would expect I would need a lot more links at one time to get onto Google's radar. And if that did happen, well, lesson learned. Lissie and Language Dude's comments have reassured me a bit more about this. @languagedude Lots of great advice, as always! @lissie Like the new site! Is this you stepping into the MMO ring officially? @corbin It’s really hard to keep the sites up to date with content but it’s not something I worry about too much. I am currently working on a massive update for http://www.workingholidayinfo.com for all of the visa info as that’s the sort of thing that changes. But general advice stuff like how to use the London Underground or hostel etiquette doesn’t really change. My goal is to add new content on all of my sites from time to time but it’s not something I’ve been able to do much of. For most of the sites I do, updates aren’t demanding in the same was as they are with blogs.

@ana Ya, I know! It’s terrible. I have been planning on writing those articles and more for the Sydney site for ages and I know it’s something that is holding it back. I don’t plan on leaving it like that, I just need to find the time to finish those pages off.

@workingnomad Ya I had been concerned about that but I would expect I would need a lot more links at one time to get onto Google’s radar. And if that did happen, well, lesson learned. Lissie and Language Dude’s comments have reassured me a bit more about this.

@languagedude Lots of great advice, as always!

@lissie Like the new site! Is this you stepping into the MMO ring officially?

]]> by: Residual Income Builder http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35760 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:25:05 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35760 @Language Dude totally agree with you. Ana - I have now twice had authoritive sites link to quality content of mine - do you know why they did it - becasue I was already on page 1 because of the links I had built! How did they find me - they googled - and very few people go past pasge 1! Kirsty if the site is just registered - keep the links slow but steady - once they are a few months old they are good to go! Lissie @Language Dude totally agree with you. Ana - I have now twice had authoritive sites link to quality content of mine - do you know why they did it - becasue I was already on page 1 because of the links I had built! How did they find me - they googled - and very few people go past pasge 1!

Kirsty if the site is just registered - keep the links slow but steady - once they are a few months old they are good to go!

Lissie

]]> by: Language Dude http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35755 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:43:40 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35755 Ana and Working Nomad. She's definitely on the right track. I think she'll continue to see some good results with this strategy. Ana, I hate to break it to you, but great content does not necessarily attract links. In fact it doesn't in most cases. And these days, when it does, they are worthless nofollow links from social media. That puts quality content producers in a terrible position. I've seen some pretty high profile content producers managed by old school media bite the dust because they didn't understand the link economy. Top of the line content didn't help them in SERPs and they were slaughtered by sites with inferior content and poor user experience. Years ago I put trust in that method of great content attracting links as extolled on WMW (BTW Working Nomad, I've known you from there for years now). It failed me, time and time again for years. You can't expect to win that way when all your competitors aren't playing by those rules. This is the reality. Sorry to dispel any illusions. Working Nomad, if she builds links from a wide variety of sources, she should be fine. Diversity is key with links. Ana and Working Nomad. She’s definitely on the right track. I think she’ll continue to see some good results with this strategy. Ana, I hate to break it to you, but great content does not necessarily attract links. In fact it doesn’t in most cases. And these days, when it does, they are worthless nofollow links from social media. That puts quality content producers in a terrible position. I’ve seen some pretty high profile content producers managed by old school media bite the dust because they didn’t understand the link economy. Top of the line content didn’t help them in SERPs and they were slaughtered by sites with inferior content and poor user experience. Years ago I put trust in that method of great content attracting links as extolled on WMW (BTW Working Nomad, I’ve known you from there for years now). It failed me, time and time again for years. You can’t expect to win that way when all your competitors aren’t playing by those rules. This is the reality. Sorry to dispel any illusions.

Working Nomad, if she builds links from a wide variety of sources, she should be fine. Diversity is key with links.

]]> by: Working Nomad http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35747 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:41:02 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35747 This is interesting stuff but you should be a little careful building links too fast and unnaturally because I have read time after time on webmasterworld etc how people have built links like crazy in this way and then seen their site penalised and drop to position 500+. Sorry, negative comment #2. This is interesting stuff but you should be a little careful building links too fast and unnaturally because I have read time after time on webmasterworld etc how people have built links like crazy in this way and then seen their site penalised and drop to position 500+.

Sorry, negative comment #2.

]]> by: ana http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35740 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:04:46 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35740 your page on accommodation options in sydney reads "Couchsurfing, short term apartment rental, sharehouse, hostel, lease a place to yourself". and about the tax number, simply "The bad news is that you can't legally work in Australia or open a bank account until you have a Tax File Number. The good news is that it's easy to get." that's it?! i like a few of the things you do, but i really think you're going the wrong direction here. you should be producing content worth linking, not wasting time "building links". ( :( sorry to be the negative commenter) your page on accommodation options in sydney reads “Couchsurfing, short term apartment rental, sharehouse, hostel, lease a place to yourself”. and about the tax number, simply “The bad news is that you can’t legally work in Australia or open a bank account until you have a Tax File Number. The good news is that it’s easy to get.”

that’s it?!

i like a few of the things you do, but i really think you’re going the wrong direction here. you should be producing content worth linking, not wasting time “building links”.

( :( sorry to be the negative commenter)

]]> by: Corbin http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35739 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:48:10 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35739 Good work on the link building. I like the idea of linking directly to internal pages for more targeted traffic. I've been considering doing that as well for a couple of my sites, just haven't found the time to work on any articles for ezine or info hub or anything. Best of luck infiltrating those higher searched keywords, I've got a few of them locked in my cross-hair, have yet to start making a shot at them. Just curious, with all of your sites and ideas, do you find it tough keeping those pages updated with fresh content? Any tips you can share? Thanks again for posting all ur ideas and such, they're great for brainstorming! Good work on the link building. I like the idea of linking directly to internal pages for more targeted traffic. I’ve been considering doing that as well for a couple of my sites, just haven’t found the time to work on any articles for ezine or info hub or anything. Best of luck infiltrating those higher searched keywords, I’ve got a few of them locked in my cross-hair, have yet to start making a shot at them.

Just curious, with all of your sites and ideas, do you find it tough keeping those pages updated with fresh content? Any tips you can share?

Thanks again for posting all ur ideas and such, they’re great for brainstorming!

]]> by: nigel http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35737 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:01:17 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/09/14/the-stuckinsydneycom-links-experiment-10-days-in/#comment-35737 Very interesting experiment. I'm looking forward to seeing what impact it makes on your monthly earnings. Best of luck. Very interesting experiment. I’m looking forward to seeing what impact it makes on your monthly earnings. Best of luck.

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