Comments on: It’s Time to Start Treating This Like a Business http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/ Backpacking around the world on my income from the internet. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:02:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carl http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-35003 Carl Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:07:24 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-35003 Kristy, I read this when you first posted it, and it's been in my mind constantly as I work to set up a variety of web sites. There's a lot of constant work, and you have to keep plugging away at it. Thanks for writing about this, it's been a real help and inspiration. Kristy, I read this when you first posted it, and it’s been in my mind constantly as I work to set up a variety of web sites. There’s a lot of constant work, and you have to keep plugging away at it. Thanks for writing about this, it’s been a real help and inspiration.

]]> By: Nerdy Nomad » Becoming Number One in the ‘Working Holiday’ Niche http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34703 Nerdy Nomad » Becoming Number One in the ‘Working Holiday’ Niche Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:04:49 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34703 [...] Positioning myself as an expert in this niche by adding a blog, keeping the site updated and getting myself out there using social media is something I will be working on once I get back to Canada in a couple of weeks and it will be a major part of my ‘I need to start treating this like a business‘ plan. It will be a huge challenge but I think I am already in a very good position with the site I have and I’m looking forward to seeing where I can go with this. [...] [...] Positioning myself as an expert in this niche by adding a blog, keeping the site updated and getting myself out there using social media is something I will be working on once I get back to Canada in a couple of weeks and it will be a major part of my ‘I need to start treating this like a business‘ plan. It will be a huge challenge but I think I am already in a very good position with the site I have and I’m looking forward to seeing where I can go with this. [...]

]]> By: anthon|business coaching http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34671 anthon|business coaching Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:55:43 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34671 I thinks that when you have ideal traffic on your blog. Then why should not milk it. It will a good resource of make money on line. I thinks that when you have ideal traffic on your blog. Then why should not milk it. It will a good resource of make money on line.

]]> By: Food hampers http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34670 Food hampers Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:51:44 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34670 Congrats you have took right decision. I will try to follow your strategy in business. Congrats you have took right decision. I will try to follow your strategy in business.

]]> By: BenQ http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34661 BenQ Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:15:14 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34661 Hi Kirsty, Found your blog through Lissie's blog. Love the travel theme as I'm fantasizing about doing some crazy traveling in 2010. This caught me eye: "But I am going to put in a hell of an effort for the next two or three months and see where that gets me." I've relatively new to internet marketing myself but 2 or 3 months putting in real effort aimed at producing income can go a long way. And even if 3 months of work only get a few dollars, it's easy to see where you are going with it and what a little (or a lot!) of leverage can do now that the foundation is in place. I wish you the best in your efforts and I've subscribed to your blog so I hope to catch an update in a few months on your income. Cheers! -Ben Hi Kirsty,

Found your blog through Lissie’s blog. Love the travel theme as I’m fantasizing about doing some crazy traveling in 2010.

This caught me eye:
“But I am going to put in a hell of an effort for the next two or three months and see where that gets me.”

I’ve relatively new to internet marketing myself but 2 or 3 months putting in real effort aimed at producing income can go a long way. And even if 3 months of work only get a few dollars, it’s easy to see where you are going with it and what a little (or a lot!) of leverage can do now that the foundation is in place.

I wish you the best in your efforts and I’ve subscribed to your blog so I hope to catch an update in a few months on your income.

Cheers!
-Ben

]]> By: Kirsty http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34637 Kirsty Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:32:52 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34637 Its reassuring to hear all of your stories, thanks! I feel like the common trend is that, well, to see results you have to put in the hard work. Seeing Matt and Lissie do so well and me staying in the same spot sort of had me worried but I hadn't really taken into account how much work they've put into things over the past year or so compared to me. It's so encouraging to see their hard work pay off and has motivated me and I think is a good thing to keep in mind... it's nice to see people's hard work pay off. I've got the opposite way but I relaly haven't put much work in over the past year. Well I have, but not quality work. I have been working hard on this blog and I've seen things progress. Unfortunately this isn't really about making money so, while I love blogging on Nerdy Nomad, I can't relaly spend all of my free time either on here or playing around with stats and Facebook etc which is sort of what I've been doing except for a few exceptions where I've built some new small sites. I'm getting a good amount done here in NY with my great work space and net connection and Mike, I think you're right that staying put for awhile will help. I think I will stay put at home in Canada for awhile, disasters pending, of course (cuz I would want to volunteer with Hands On). I am setting out 'to do' lists the previous night and am also thinking about some mid and longer term goals including thinking about personal branding, social media and my own products. As always, lots of ideas and now it's time to execute them. @nomadicmatt I would be interested in reading about what your changes were and how they made you progress. Is this thre sort of thing you might write about on your new anti-cubicle site? Its reassuring to hear all of your stories, thanks! I feel like the common trend is that, well, to see results you have to put in the hard work. Seeing Matt and Lissie do so well and me staying in the same spot sort of had me worried but I hadn’t really taken into account how much work they’ve put into things over the past year or so compared to me. It’s so encouraging to see their hard work pay off and has motivated me and I think is a good thing to keep in mind… it’s nice to see people’s hard work pay off.

I’ve got the opposite way but I relaly haven’t put much work in over the past year. Well I have, but not quality work. I have been working hard on this blog and I’ve seen things progress. Unfortunately this isn’t really about making money so, while I love blogging on Nerdy Nomad, I can’t relaly spend all of my free time either on here or playing around with stats and Facebook etc which is sort of what I’ve been doing except for a few exceptions where I’ve built some new small sites.

I’m getting a good amount done here in NY with my great work space and net connection and Mike, I think you’re right that staying put for awhile will help. I think I will stay put at home in Canada for awhile, disasters pending, of course (cuz I would want to volunteer with Hands On). I am setting out ‘to do’ lists the previous night and am also thinking about some mid and longer term goals including thinking about personal branding, social media and my own products.

As always, lots of ideas and now it’s time to execute them.

@nomadicmatt I would be interested in reading about what your changes were and how they made you progress. Is this thre sort of thing you might write about on your new anti-cubicle site?

]]> By: Working Nomad http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34624 Working Nomad Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:06:35 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34624 I agree that staying put somewhere and working on it 9 to 5 is a good idea. Being online is important in order to research, marketing etc - it can sometimes be a big distraction but you need it there. The turning point for me was when I lived in one place for 9 months, Auckland where I had some people help me as well on the content side of things. Kinda goes against the Nomad thing but to be able to travel for half the year and work on your sites pretty much the other half has still got to be better than going back to the corporate world. My big fear is that, going back to the 9-5. My friends in Bristol are always going on about what a great lifestyle it is to work for yourself online after some initial scepticism, and I even employ one part time now since she was made down to a four day week. So the motivation for you Kirsty is to look back at what you have achieved since leaving London. It's pretty much the same for me. I agree that staying put somewhere and working on it 9 to 5 is a good idea. Being online is important in order to research, marketing etc – it can sometimes be a big distraction but you need it there.

The turning point for me was when I lived in one place for 9 months, Auckland where I had some people help me as well on the content side of things. Kinda goes against the Nomad thing but to be able to travel for half the year and work on your sites pretty much the other half has still got to be better than going back to the corporate world.

My big fear is that, going back to the 9-5. My friends in Bristol are always going on about what a great lifestyle it is to work for yourself online after some initial scepticism, and I even employ one part time now since she was made down to a four day week.

So the motivation for you Kirsty is to look back at what you have achieved since leaving London. It’s pretty much the same for me.

]]> By: Mike http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34620 Mike Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:20:32 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34620 I think you could also argue that you need to treat this as a hobby, because doesn't it need to be enjoyable work and something you have a passion for? Maybe Kirsty you just need to stay put for a little while in a place that has decent internet connection and try and get a lot done. Having your own info product is still one of the best ways to make money online IMO. I think you could also argue that you need to treat this as a hobby, because doesn’t it need to be enjoyable work and something you have a passion for?

Maybe Kirsty you just need to stay put for a little while in a place that has decent internet connection and try and get a lot done. Having your own info product is still one of the best ways to make money online IMO.

]]> By: Fab http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34604 Fab Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:55:08 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34604 Hi Kirsty. I completely relate to your situation. I am now stuck since almost 2 years at a 200$ monthly... Certainly I think I put efforts in doing stuff but not consistently enough and also I expect to see results too quickly after an effort spike... and if I don't see any change, I get de-motivated till the next spike. I have to reassess all this game too. Hi Kirsty. I completely relate to your situation.
I am now stuck since almost 2 years at a 200$ monthly…
Certainly I think I put efforts in doing stuff but not consistently enough and also I expect to see results too quickly after an effort spike… and if I don’t see any change, I get de-motivated till the next spike.
I have to reassess all this game too.

]]> By: Anil http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34602 Anil Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:09:15 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34602 Interesting to read of the motivations and requirements to make it good in the online market. Maybe there's a trade off in wanting to write with focus against the time required to make the site earn an income. I wouldn't know for I haven't tried my hand at it, yet. Interesting to read of the motivations and requirements to make it good in the online market. Maybe there’s a trade off in wanting to write with focus against the time required to make the site earn an income. I wouldn’t know for I haven’t tried my hand at it, yet.

]]> By: Nomadic Matt http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34586 Nomadic Matt Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:04:19 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34586 I agree with Lissie (AGAIN!). My laptop and I never ever part and even when Im off exploring it's become hard for me to disconnect right now. I work all day. But thats because right now I'm still laying the foundations for passive income and little work. By the end of the year, I should have developed enough sites and enough income where I can step away and never look back. But it takes time and you need to constantly change what you are doing. I have changed things 3 times and each change has made me more efficient and profitable. If you just keep the status quo, NYC will always be a dream ....as would flying to Ireland... I agree with Lissie (AGAIN!). My laptop and I never ever part and even when Im off exploring it’s become hard for me to disconnect right now. I work all day. But thats because right now I’m still laying the foundations for passive income and little work. By the end of the year, I should have developed enough sites and enough income where I can step away and never look back. But it takes time and you need to constantly change what you are doing.

I have changed things 3 times and each change has made me more efficient and profitable.

If you just keep the status quo, NYC will always be a dream ….as would flying to Ireland…

]]> By: Neale http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34578 Neale Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:24:36 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34578 I think those of us in this business for keeps all arrive at the same place your in now during different times at different levels, I have been there and focused for a while and saw the results, now I'm back in the same place just at a different level I have been stuck around the $500 -$750 level now for around 18 months and that was just fine, as things have changed so have my needs and my goals. For me it boils down to giving up free time to grow my own business their is no way around it the payback is more free time though :) I think those of us in this business for keeps all arrive at the same place your in now during different times at different levels, I have been there and focused for a while and saw the results, now I’m back in the same place just at a different level I have been stuck around the $500 -$750 level now for around 18 months and that was just fine, as things have changed so have my needs and my goals. For me it boils down to giving up free time to grow my own business their is no way around it the payback is more free time though :)

]]> By: Dan http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34572 Dan Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:10:15 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34572 Good luck Kirsty, I'm really starting to approach it as a business too although I don't have as much as you to build on, I think I'll be looking at doing it in a different way though. I sort of feel like my job is starting to look shaky, plus I really don't enjoy it anymore. I've also taken the step of finding a mentor and I'm no longer afraid to invest, after all how can you build a business without investment, maybe it can be done but it would be slow progress. Anyways, good following you. Good luck Kirsty, I’m really starting to approach it as a business too although I don’t have as much as you to build on, I think I’ll be looking at doing it in a different way though. I sort of feel like my job is starting to look shaky, plus I really don’t enjoy it anymore.

I’ve also taken the step of finding a mentor and I’m no longer afraid to invest, after all how can you build a business without investment, maybe it can be done but it would be slow progress.

Anyways, good following you.

]]> By: Kirsty http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34568 Kirsty Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:41:57 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34568 @Fran Thanks for the comment. I think having some sort of pressure, like in your case not wanting to return to England, is good for motivation, at least for me. I travelled with a friend for awhile who doesn't really have any hobbies that are solo pursuits so I could never seem to sneak away to do work so being able to find time to work with an 8 year old is impressive! @Drafternoon I am actually a pretty competetive person although I've mellowed. I like a bit of friendly competition and I think it would motivate me. I love this work so it will always be fun. Even the things I don't like to do the most (hunting for affiliate programs, writing about dull topics), I still sort of like doing, just not for long periods of time. I love everything about this industry so am looking forward to getting back into things. @Lissie Being broke in NY is fine with me! I can always find something to keep me entertained. But I'm not actually broke at all, I just would be a bit screwed if I came back in September and rented a place to myself like I want to. It sounds like you reached that point of motivation that I haven't really experienced a need for. Even in London at my regular job, I liked it and I loved living in London. I haven't reached a point where I've had to have aserious talk with myself because I didn't like how things were. I have always liked how things were and are in my life and like them even more now that I'm working for myself. I would like things even more with a bit more money coming in each month, but I'm not in a do or die situation and am happy as is. BUT I do want to kick things into gear a bit... I think I need something big to aim for to motivate me though and an apartment in NYC I guess would be the sort of thing to do it. @Liz When I figure out what my strategies are, you will all be the first to know! haha As of right now... I'm not really sure. Right now I'm going to get my Africa site live (being worked on now), I'm also working on my NYC city guide (same as http://www.stuckinlondon.com) a lot right now which should keep me busy the whole time I'm here as I want to make it good. So so far my only strategy is more sites. That and adding affiliate programs. I'm open for suggestions! @Fran Thanks for the comment. I think having some sort of pressure, like in your case not wanting to return to England, is good for motivation, at least for me. I travelled with a friend for awhile who doesn’t really have any hobbies that are solo pursuits so I could never seem to sneak away to do work so being able to find time to work with an 8 year old is impressive!

@Drafternoon I am actually a pretty competetive person although I’ve mellowed. I like a bit of friendly competition and I think it would motivate me. I love this work so it will always be fun. Even the things I don’t like to do the most (hunting for affiliate programs, writing about dull topics), I still sort of like doing, just not for long periods of time. I love everything about this industry so am looking forward to getting back into things.

@Lissie Being broke in NY is fine with me! I can always find something to keep me entertained. But I’m not actually broke at all, I just would be a bit screwed if I came back in September and rented a place to myself like I want to. It sounds like you reached that point of motivation that I haven’t really experienced a need for. Even in London at my regular job, I liked it and I loved living in London. I haven’t reached a point where I’ve had to have aserious talk with myself because I didn’t like how things were. I have always liked how things were and are in my life and like them even more now that I’m working for myself. I would like things even more with a bit more money coming in each month, but I’m not in a do or die situation and am happy as is. BUT I do want to kick things into gear a bit… I think I need something big to aim for to motivate me though and an apartment in NYC I guess would be the sort of thing to do it.

@Liz When I figure out what my strategies are, you will all be the first to know! haha As of right now… I’m not really sure. Right now I’m going to get my Africa site live (being worked on now), I’m also working on my NYC city guide (same as http://www.stuckinlondon.com) a lot right now which should keep me busy the whole time I’m here as I want to make it good. So so far my only strategy is more sites. That and adding affiliate programs. I’m open for suggestions!

]]> By: Liz @ ExtremeTelecommute http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34567 Liz @ ExtremeTelecommute Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:28:58 +0000 http://www.nerdynomad.com/2009/07/24/its-time-to-start-treating-this-like-a-business/#comment-34567 I'm always interested to read your earning reports, and I'll be particularly interested to read them in upcoming months. I hope you'll be sharing with us exactly what your treating-it-like-a-business strategies are! @Lissie, I know the feeling about not being able to stop working because your laptop + couch = office! I work for an agency as well as freelance, and I have to force myself to close the computer and walk away come 5:00 so I don't get so caught up in twitter/blogging/etc. that hours pass without my notice. I’m always interested to read your earning reports, and I’ll be particularly interested to read them in upcoming months. I hope you’ll be sharing with us exactly what your treating-it-like-a-business strategies are!

@Lissie, I know the feeling about not being able to stop working because your laptop + couch = office! I work for an agency as well as freelance, and I have to force myself to close the computer and walk away come 5:00 so I don’t get so caught up in twitter/blogging/etc. that hours pass without my notice.

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