May 14 2008
Website Reviews - Yorkies, Labradors and Andalucia
I got an email the other day from Melanie asking for tips on jumping from $250 in monthly Adsense income on to something bigger. She’s been following along and has seen me push my income up pretty considerably in the past couple of years and wants to get a piece of the pie so she can pack it in, pack up and hit the road while earning online.
Sites, Traffic and Earnings
Melanie actually has three websites and since she’s focused on increasing her earnings as a whole, I figured I’d review them all together and give some suggestions for areas where I think the income could grow.
She has two sites about dogs, All About Yorkshire Terriers and All About Labradors and also a site about Andalucia just to mix things up a bit. The dogs sites each get around 250 visits per day and the Spain site around 60 to 100 unique daily visitors. With a total of 550 to 600 visits across all her sites she actually gets more traffic than I do on my eight sites combined. The trick though isn’t how many people you get to come to your site, it’s how to get the people who will do what you want them to do - click on an ad or buy something. But with those traffic numbers I think there’s a lot of untapped opportunity.
Currently her sites are earning a steady $250 per month with Adsense but that’s from the dog sites alone with the Spain site not earning much at all. I earned $250 a month with Adsense as well up until about January this year so I can understand the frustration with being stuck at that point.
Melanie’s Questions
I asked Melanie for some specific questions to give me a starting point for the review so here they are:
Would you advise me building more sites around the andalucia site? I feel this one might be the money maker, what would you advise?
I wouldn’t! Not yet anyways. The Andalucia site hasn’t really earned anything yet so I don’t think it makes sense to keep building similar sites until this one proves that it can earn. I’m not saying that it doesn’t have the potential to earn, just that you shouldn’t create copycat sites until you prove that it can make you some money.
I know a lot of your sites are travel related, what could I add to the site that could push up my affiliate sales?
I know that affiliate programs are the way to go but I haven’t done much about it on my own sites so I’m not sure I can offer too many suggestions in this area. I can say that getting visitors who are in the buying mood is the most important thing so if you notice that you get people from search engines looking for ‘accommodation in andalucia’ then put an accommdation booking engine on your site etc. If you don’t have anyone finding your site in a buying mood then try to write articles with specific keywords in mind like ‘online hotel booking andalucia’, ‘books about andalucia’, and so on.
Would you suggest going for direct links?
I’m all for direct link sales, it’s what pushed me out of my $100 a month rut. But at the time I discovered them, I had a really old, PR5, DMOZ listed, general backpacking site that seemed to be attractive to a lot of people. Your sites are only PR2 at the moment so hitting up the Digitalpoint forums probably wouldn’t be too fruitful since all people there seem to care about is PR.
Approaching companies directly who care less about PR and are more interested in access to your very targeted traffic is an option. I know nothing about the pet industry but for your Andalucia site maybe approach hotel and hostel owners or tour operators to see if a monthly link would interest them. If there’s a lot of competition between them then you might have some luck. I’m not sure this sort of thing would bring in that much money so it might not be worth the time but I guess you won’t know until you try.
My Suggestions
- Scrap SBI - Melanie is paying $299 per year per site for some product called SBI. I have no idea what this is but she tells me it’s a great way for people who don’t know anything about HTML or building sites to get a site online easily. Paying an individual to build a site for you is also a great way to get a site online and I doubt very much that a simple site will cost $299 if you look for someone on eLance. Even if it does, it won’t cost you per year, it’ll be a one-off fee. Plus since the sites are already alive and kicking, if you do a bit of research into HTML, FTP and all that fun stuff, its just a matter of copying the source code and uploading to a separate host which Melanie might be able to do on her own and save a bundle.
- Build more dog sites - Assuming each of those dog sites are earning $125 a month with Adsense, that’s more than any of my individual sites bring in and to me that says you’re onto something. They both get a decent amount of traffic and converting it into Adsense clicks seems to be working well so why not stick with the formula and crank out a few more? You’ve got a template that works so just buy a few more domains, research some more dog types, plug in the information and all of a sudden you have a bundle of sites with earning potential. As an added bonus, having a network of several dog sites and linking them all together will allow traffic to pass between them and make each site stronger.
- Linkworth/Text Link Ads - Melanie actually emailed me more recently to say she read about Linkworth on my blog and had just sold a link for $11/month on one of the doggie sites. It might not seem like that much but all of those little bits ad up, especially when they’re locked in on a monthly basis. I look at Linkworth, TLA and Adsense all as being predictable month on month earners. They may take a while but earnings in these areas tend to keep creeping upwards with little effort and having a predictable monthly base earnings level is a big confidence boost. TLA are a bit more difficult to get enrolled in with PR2 sites but the traffic numbers might compensate for that and it’s worth a try. Even if they reject the sites, sending an email off a month or two later asking them to reconsider has worked for me in the past.
- Search for relevant affiliate programs - There are loads of different companies out there with tonnes of affiliate programs on offer. Clix Galore, Affiliate Future and Trade Doubler are the only ones I’ve joined with very limited success but also with little to no true effort put in. If you can set aside the time, there are bound to be some programs well suited for your sites so choose those without being tempted to sign up to everything that might be remotely connected to your themes. For example, avoid general travel affiliates and look for ones directed at Spain specifically. Or even better, join hotel booking sites but only list the ones in Andalucia, each with it’s own page and maybe a writeup of some kind. Instead of just putting affiliate links on every page, write specific pages for each and load them with keywords you think people in the mood to buy would use.
- Sign up for 103 Bees - I think blindly adding affiliate programs to a site is a waste of time. You want to be able to get people to your site who are in the right frame of mind to buy whatever it is you’re promoting, it’ not enough just to have that general traffic passing by. An excellent tool for learning what people are searching for when they find your site is 103 Bees. It used to be free but now I think there’s a small fee but it’s worth it for getting ideas on what sorts of articles people are looking for and also seeing how well new articles you write with keywords in mind actually end up doing.
Summary
I think all of Melanie’s sites are really good. They’re packed with information, complete, easy to navigate, focus on niche areas, are attracting search engine traffic (which I think is the most important for earning online), and they’re just really good resources on their respective topics. On the other hand, I know that having all of the eggs in the Google Adsense basket is scary and Melanie knows this too. But I think sticking to what is working rather than building off of the Spain site is the way to go for now, at least until that site starts performing.
Does anyone else have any comments or suggestions for Melanie? Do you agree with me or think I’m a crazy fool? Comments are welcome and if anyone else would like a review, drop me a line. That cost $0.00. Bargain.
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[…] And there you have it! I’m very excited to have hit this milestone already, and I hope to continue to expand that in the weeks to come. If you’re interested in setting up niche sites of your own, Kirsty at Nerdy Nomad had a great post recently giving some analysis on what sites should focus on and how to pick a proper niche. […]
Webjourneyman sent an email that I thought would be relevant as a comment:
“Sorry to sound like a know it all but I think the advice you gave Melanie about copying the source code to a new host to scrap SBI, could land her in hot legal water because of copyright on the code that she is renting. Agree that $300 year/site is outrageous but since her search engine traffic might drop by changing the html shes in a bad spot.”
Like I said, I’ve got no real idea about what SBI even is let alone any legal issues but that’s a good point. Something to look into but I’m still sure she could emply someone who knows what they’re doing to rebuild the site in a similar design using new code but there’s always that risk of dropping in the search engines. But then again, the sites could rise too! Risky business.
Hi Kirsty,
Thanks for the review
The only one I won’t be taking is scrapping SBI
I think it is the reason I have got the level of traffic I have. Due to the tools for search engine optimization etc. I also think that all its tools and resources have helped to no end and the forums within SBI are priceless.
But the rest of the suggestions are sound. I think you have a point in building more dog ones. I started doing 2 other dog ones, but without SBI and I have not got a level of traffic which is anywhere near that of the other 2.
I gave up on those 2, they are not making anything, but I think I’m going to start working on them again.
These are the URLs:
http://www.try-dog-training.com
http://www.all-about-golden-retrievers.com
Oh and by the way the labrador link is not working.
But anyway, I will keep you posted on how it goes. I am confident I will leave my job soon
My aim is to get to $800/month and then I will leave.
Thanks again
Mel.
Hi,
I have two points to bring on the table here…
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- First, I have been reading a lot on the net about TLA being harmful in the long term. In doubt, I would consider trying to get direct links (no intermediate)… probably requires more time but if it’s safer might be worth. BTW I have even had time to implement this on my sites
- Second, I don’t know 103 Bees program but I can tell you that Google Analytics does a superb job in giving you infos about traffic metrics. It’s free as well. To go further, if you want to try to optimize pages for better conversion, Google Optimizer is great also. It allows you to try different copies of some pages and gives you a chance to determine which one converts better.
Hope that helps.
Fab (on my way to learn some serious Web Analytics…)
Oh crap! Analytics! How could I forget that? I guess I sort of just assume everyone already uses it so check that out of you haven’t already. I like 103 Bees because I don’t need to wade through the other Analytics stuff which loads slowly on my computer at the moment. I like how it focuses on one thing, las it out well and it loads fast.
Mel I fixed that link. It makes since you not wanting to mess with SBI. Once I get something working well and getting SE traffic I hesitate to tinker too much with anything on the page. Yes things could improve but there’s also the chance that the slightest change could knock you off the top of the SERPs so probably a wise choice if an expensive one.
Those other sites look good, how old are they? Give them some time to get old and crusty and I’m sure you’ll start to see some Google love and be on your way to $800. Good luck, keep us posted!
Thanks for that guys,
I will look into Google Analytics. I have heard a lot, but never actually used any of it. Even as I write this I have absolutely no idea what Google Analytics it! I will need to research
I also am going to start trying direct link sales for my sites.
Kirsty the other sites are about 1 year old, more or less, I think I will begin work on those immediately
See where that takes me.
Hey Kirsty - great analysis. This is one of many reasons I check for new posts from you on a daily basis! I have a couple of sites in the works and once I get the set of them put together, I might just hit you up for a critique.
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Gustafson
Oh I have lots I want to say but am on my way out the door to a dance competition! Quickly then: consider blogs rather than static sites: its much easier to get ranked in the SE because you can update the blogs easily. In terms of spreading out your risk of having other income sources: consider looking at something BANS - EBay stores : in your Dog niche they sell the odd one or 2 items
With Adsense start a blog and go very niche: not just dog training: but do training in LA or York or wherever you can find advertisers the clicks will be worth a lot more than the more general stuff you are in
Write articles on places like hubpages and ezines to promote your stuff
Link back to your sites from your blog too!
Hi! I’m an Account Manager for LinkWorth and I wanted to drop a quick comment to thank you for helping to promote our awesome search engine marketing company!
Have a great day!
Lots of great advice here. I haven’t gotten involved in Hubpages but Lissie I think you’ve had a bit of success with them? Might be something worth checking out. Same goes for eBay stores.
If you want a second opinion there’s a website review area at http://forums.digitalpoint.com and the people over there generally know their stuff.
Thanks for the mention Kirsty: I even managed a payout from Adsense because of hubpages : I wrote about hubpages and Internet Marketing here: http://hubpages.com/_eml/hub/HubPages-Internet-Marketing
damme had the wrong link
Hey Kirsty,
Since the reviews, I have managed to sell another ad via linkworth for one of my dog sites, the comission I receive this time is $20.
Every little help!! Can’t wait to have 20 of these per month
What is your current CTR for the website?
Add kontera ads!!! They go great with the Google adds.